I am a fairly active member at Snark. And by fairly active, I mean that I have been a member for a little under 6 months now, and I have nearly 5500 posts. Okay, so, by fairly active, I mean, pretty much obsessed, and practically live on. But I guess it’s all perspective. Ha ha.
I joined fresh out of a 9 month program, which had left me very distant from the Internet, and not really too sure of what was going on in this big bloggy world we live in. I somehow came across Snark, and I guess we could say I did not look back. Almost immediately though, I noticed that Snark had a bit of a reputation for getting involved in e-drama, and maybe being a bit too cliquey. Nevertheless, the Snarkers were all very nice and helpful, for the most part.
I suppose here is where you expect me to depict epic betrayal, or something. Sorry to be a disappointment (maybe), but I still like Snark, and all of its members! But here’s where the snobbery comes in!
To relate it back to my “real life,” (personally, the line between “real life,” and “e-life,” seems somewhat blurred with the likes of Facebook around, but whatever, let’s stick with the established terms!) when I first started Broadcasting in school, my teacher would point out different angles, and effects, and shadows, and whatever else related to composition. He told us that in a matter of months, we would do the same thing, and it may become impossible to watch films, due to the constant analysis of compositional elements. And he was right! To this day, I will be watching a film, and my friends will make a comment about the main hunk, like “Wow, did you see that?” referring to the way the dream boat flipped his sandy hair, and I will respond with “YES! The way they used the Hitchcock effect, and the intensity of the background colours were amazing!”
Something similar happened to me upon joining Snark! Before, I was perfectly fine with iFrames and other crappy design practises I prefer not to mention in this blog, as to not provide evidence that I did them! But just being exposed to the different things you could improve your website, and all of the information on the use of copyright imagery, and everything just made me sit up and listen. Now, I pay attention to the subtleties of a design, that really make the entire effect, but are maybe not directly noticed by the typical audience. Where in film, I would check for mis-used angles, I now find my eyes darting to the little Firefox extension that tells me if a site is valid coding or not.
Ann recently penned a blog about online cliques, and said that she felt inferior (for lack of a better word, I suppose. Because I think inferior may be a bit strong. Perhaps it’s more suitable to say “not at home”?) to Snark members, because she is younger and less experienced than some other members. I must admit, I was a bit surprised reading that. Sure, Jem may have a reputation for being “ultimately better than you,” (or, a bitch, to some, ha ha) and Sarai may be blunt about the things she thinks need to be improved on your website (there are really too many examples to link them all), but at the same time, they always seem helpful. (As are all other Snark members. Jem and Sarai were just the first two to pop into my head. I could list all of them, but that could take ages, and I am sleepy. Besides, probably 99.9% of the people reading this are Snarkers. So, just… give yourself a pat on the back.)
I guess what I’m trying to say is that everyone is learning, we’re just all at different stages! And Snark is an excellent place to use your Internet Snobbery for good, and not evil. And nobody is going to… make you walk the plank, or anything, if you’re not a pro yet!



People always seem to mistake Jem’s way of getting through to people as “bitchiness”. Sometimes a shove is better than a gentle push. Especially in the case of stubborn teenagers.
How old is Ann? Because not everyone on Snark is 18+, not at all…
I don’t think she has any reason to feel inferior. We all have been young and inexperienced at some point, but we learn.
And her site does look nice.
(That’s very snark-like, judging a person by her site)
I know exactly what you mean. I learned by reading blunt “reviews” and reading articles that didn’t beat around the bush. It inspired me to get better, and that’s all we can do really — try.
I’m really bad at coding and design (hence my use of templates.) But no one at Snark has aliented me. Everyone is really kind, and whenever I have ever asked for help, Snarkers are always ready to aid me. Ahaha, I’m always on Snark now, it’s way too addictive ;).
I always felt that even though Snark had a lot of “advanced” members, they were still nice in a different way. But Snark really has changed the way I see the internet, fo’ sho.
I am utterly offended that you didn’t mention me in this entry.
Well I guess sometimes we bring this whole elitist attitude to new heights. So much that I have really weird back thoughts (no you don’t have to be perfect… on the other hand this level of imperfectness is unacceptable
), but unlike the rest of the boards I had previously joined: IT’S FUN!
I generally get bored of any given forum, after a month, two… or at the very least 4 months. Snark is still as fun as ever. Plus, it helps me want to make a better site. So elitism is good for something, it’s likely to make you “ultimately better” LOL
I always feel like no one really cares about my presence at Snark, but maybe I should just post a lot more?!
I discovered a long time ago that it doesn’t matter how hard you try to be nice, and how hard you try to accept people, there will always be some that assume you’re a bitch part of some elite clique. I don’t think that’s going on with Ann – I think she’s just feeling detached from the rest of us – but in general members (and other online dudes) just have to remember that you can’t please 100% people, 100% of the time.
*blushes*
I admit, 50% of “fitting in” is going to be up to the individual, aka me. It’s just writing those first posts, making those first comments, something I’m always reluctant to do, even in real life.
And although I denyed it in my post, it was my momentary low-self esteem speaking a lot of the time.
As Julie said, “we all have been young and inexperienced at some point”… but don’t you remember hating feeling like that? Never mind, I’ll try to keep remembering that nothing will change overnight (try being the operative word :p).
Somehow I knew that that post would get back to Snark members…
... if I had any comments to moderate, rather to my surprise I had 3 waiting for me, all through Aisling’s blog which had come back to bite me, rather deservedly, on the arse. I knew that writing an admittedly ...
I understand completely. A few of my (online) friends and are have been referred to as ‘peas’ by people who don’t even know us! To me it seems very group-like, but apparently on the outside it seems pretty clique-y.
I’ve always been one to have a couple close friends and then have trouble staying in touch with others I know. I’m also not really one to approach. It’s terrible and I’d really like to get past that and get a larger group of friends I feel comfortable talking to.
One of my friends once told me I’m the only person she knows who is really shy and really outspoken at the same time. It’s probably the most accurate description of myself I’ve ever heard.
Well, as a newbie to Snark, I don’t notice the cliques, but I have visited most of the Snark members sites before. I still see everyone as very friendly on Snark.
I personally have been meaning to join Snark for awhile, but of course I only did it today. Mostly I didn’t end up joining because it did seem so cliquey, but I’ve had some nice welcomes, and I’m happy so far.
... to come of it. Not so – Snarkers got wind of it, and started commenting, and one of them even blogged about it. And subconciously I learned my first lesson about Snark – the people there are interested in ...